• [ network ]
  • goatmatrix.net
  • gvid.tv
  • img.gvid.tv
  • games.gvid.tv
  • apps.gvid.tv
HomeUploadUpload URLHotlinkRandomAbouttheme toggle
Expand

Kelly Thomas Verdict: Father, Protesters Speak Out Against Not Guilty Verdicts

Views:1634
@ReasonVids3

On Jan. 13, 2014, a jury in Orange County, California, acquitted former Fullerton Police Department officers Manuel Ramos and Jay Cicinielli of criminal charges after they were accused of beating and killing Kelly Thomas, a male drifter with schizophrenia. Ramos was charged with involuntary manslaughter and second degree murder and Cicinelli with involuntary manslaughter and excessive force. Residents and supporters of the Thomas family were shocked by the verdict and gathered outside the Fullerton Department, January 18, to protest.

"The people are very angry," said Ron Thomas, father of Kelly Thomas. "There was no justice by these jurors who just didn't get it ... If a bad cop wants to do something to us, they can."

Many protestors were baffled as to why jurors did not convict the officers after they saw video, audio, and images of the horrific incident. "Everyone can see the beating, it's online. And the fact that the jury saw that beating and they said not guilty ... I have not words," said one protestor to Reason TV.

Ron Thomas thanked supporters for showing up and said that he had been talking with federal authorities who said they have been examining the case to see if they would file charges against the officers. (Read Jacob Sullum's argument about why trying the case again in a federal court - however understandable and well-intentioned - would constitute double jeopardy.)

Cicinelli told the Orange County Register, Jan. 15, that he will take the legal means necessary to try and get his job back as a Fullerton Police Officer, although Fullerton Police Chief Dan Hughes has said he will fight these efforts:

"I was wrongfully terminated. How do you argue with a jury of 12 who all agree on the same thing?" he said. "They sat through the whole trial and heard all the facts."

He also cited the trial testimony of Fullerton Cpl. Stephen Rubio, his training officer, who testified that Cicinelli's actions during the struggle with Thomas were within department policy.

If legal channels to get his job back are unsuccessful, Cicinelli is unclear on other options.

"I just have to see where this takes me," he said. "It's like starting over. ... My whole life has been stopped."

Fullerton Police arrested at least 14 people at the rally after some protestors blocked intersections, vandalized property, assaulted a news photographer, and refused to disperse after being ordered. From Voice of OC:

Kelly Thomas' father, Ron, has repeatedly called for protests to remain peaceful. But, he says, a "splinter group" showed up on Saturday.

"I think that they are people who take advantage of an opportunity," Thomas said in an interview, adding that another TV news reporter was surrounded in her van earlier in the week.

"That's not what we're about at all," he said. "We never have been."

Approximately 3:14.

Produced by Paul Detrick.

Visit http://reason.com/reasontv for downloadable versions and subscribe to Reason TV's YouTube Channel to receive automatic updates when new material goes live.

acquittal
,
kelly thomas
,
police officer (occupation)
,
law enforcement
,
jay cicinelli
,
verdict
,
reason (periodical)
,
paul detrick
,
reason.tv
,
libertarianism (school of thought)
,
libertarian socialism (political ideology)
,
cops
,
crime
,
court
,
death of kelly thomas (event)
,
attorney
,
lawyer (occupation)
    Thumbnail for The Growing Power of the Presidency12:50
    The Growing Power of the Presidency
    ReasonVids
    1326 views
    Thumbnail for Hank Williams Jr - If The South Would Have Won3:19
    Hank Williams Jr - If The South Would Have Won
    KKK
    2067 views
    Thumbnail for How City Hall is F*cking Record Store Day!3:47
    How City Hall is F*cking Record Store Day!
    ReasonVids
    1783 views
    Thumbnail for Why Democrats Should Vote Libertarian This Year, According to Libertarian Party Members3:27
    Why Democrats Should Vote Libertarian This Year, According to Libertarian Party Members
    ReasonVids2
    1798 views
    Thumbnail for FBI makes daring raid of Polymarket CEO's home... | Fireship4:36
    FBI makes daring raid of Polymarket CEO's home... | Fireship
    Invidious8
    112 views
    Thumbnail for Matt Ridley on Evolution, Economics, and "Ideas Having Sex"9:15
    Matt Ridley on Evolution, Economics, and "Ideas Having Sex"
    ReasonVids
    1696 views
    Thumbnail for Common Beginner  Problems - Clojure8:00
    Common Beginner Problems - Clojure
    Invidious8
    126 views
    Thumbnail for Apache Solr vs Elasticsearch Differences | How to Choose Your Open Source Search Engine - Sematext9:18
    Apache Solr vs Elasticsearch Differences | How to Choose Your Open Source Search Engine - Sematext
    Invidious8
    97 views
    Thumbnail for The Great Philly Beer Bust or, Step Away From The Unlicensed Ale or I'll Shoot!7:30
    The Great Philly Beer Bust or, Step Away From The Unlicensed Ale or I'll Shoot!
    ReasonVids
    1711 views
    Thumbnail for Jon Gomm - Passionflower6:24
    Jon Gomm - Passionflower
    invidious3
    268 views
    Thumbnail for Graveworm - Losing My Religion (HD) | Toàn Nguyễn4:28
    Graveworm - Losing My Religion (HD) | Toàn Nguyễn
    Invidious8
    114 views
    Thumbnail for Please it's not my fault you can't keep up | ImmaVegeta1:12
    Please it's not my fault you can't keep up | ImmaVegeta
    Invidious8
    122 views
    Thumbnail for Attempt #1 on Scratch Get Over It10:10
    Attempt #1 on Scratch Get Over It
    SegOverride_Gaming
    318 views
    Thumbnail for [09.30 오전 방송 전체 보기] 미국 7월 고용 3년 반만에 '최저'/중국의 경기 부양, 이전과는 확실히 다르다?/징검다리 휴일, 투자전략은 눈치게임? | 삼프로TV 3PROTV5:33:11
    [09.30 오전 방송 전체 보기] 미국 7월 고용 3년 반만에 '최저'/중국의 경기 부양, 이전과는 확실히 다르다?/징검다리 휴일, 투자전략은 눈치게임? | 삼프로TV 3PROTV
    Invidious8
    104 views
    Thumbnail for How Physicists FINALLY Solved the Feynman Sprinkler Problem | Dr Ben Miles17:16
    How Physicists FINALLY Solved the Feynman Sprinkler Problem | Dr Ben Miles
    invidious1
    1294 views
    Thumbnail for "Economics Teaches Us Humility": Q&A with George Mason University's Pete Boettke9:19
    "Economics Teaches Us Humility": Q&A with George Mason University's Pete Boettke
    ReasonVids3
    1635 views
    Thumbnail for Dogs: husky vs border collie agility | Eyepetizer2:17
    Dogs: husky vs border collie agility | Eyepetizer
    invidious
    1295 views
    Thumbnail for Sunny s2e523:25
    Sunny s2e5
    SunnyFan
    364 views
    Thumbnail for Bob Barr Debates Obama/McCain9:56
    Bob Barr Debates Obama/McCain
    ReasonVids
    1699 views
    Thumbnail for An Economist Walks Into a Brothel: What Prostitutes and Big-Wave Surfers Can Teach Us About Risk7:06
    An Economist Walks Into a Brothel: What Prostitutes and Big-Wave Surfers Can Teach Us About Risk
    ReasonVids
    1120 views
    Thumbnail for Ep. 2663a - Countries Are Preparing For Inflation, The Middle Class Is The Key | X22report14:25
    Ep. 2663a - Countries Are Preparing For Inflation, The Middle Class Is The Key | X22report
    bitchute_topics
    1751 views
    Thumbnail for Qualified Immunity: Explained3:03
    Qualified Immunity: Explained
    IJvids
    1714 views
    Thumbnail for Can the Free Market End Global Poverty? Nobel Laureate Joseph Stiglitz vs. NYU's William Easterly1:27:28
    Can the Free Market End Global Poverty? Nobel Laureate Joseph Stiglitz vs. NYU's William Easterly
    ReasonVids
    1336 views
    Thumbnail for The Tiny Dot. - A situation too weird for 99.999% of people to adequately explain.6:48
    The Tiny Dot. - A situation too weird for 99.999% of people to adequately explain.
    AOU
    2205 views
    Thumbnail for 30 Ways to Say DNC1:01
    30 Ways to Say DNC
    ReasonVids
    1292 views

points

Permalink
Reply
acquittal
,
kelly thomas
,
police officer (occupation)
,
law enforcement
,
jay cicinelli
,
verdict
,
reason (periodical)
,
paul detrick
,
reason.tv
,
libertarianism (school of thought)
,
libertarian socialism (political ideology)
,
cops
,
crime
,
court
,
death of kelly thomas (event)
,
attorney
,
lawyer (occupation)
TOS  •  Add Keywords  •  Donate  •   Analytics  •   DMCA  •   Puzzle